As much as I want the Snyder Cut to be canon, as it seems to be shaping up to be far superior in quality, I fear they'll probably just make it its own thing, think Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut. That being said, I'd be extremely hyped if by chance it was canon and led to a bit of a reset for the universe.
I just watched the Birds of Prey movie again and it's still good, but I noticed that on Harley Quinn's business card it said, Harley Quinn & Associate: Badass Motherfuckers. While on our pages and links, we use Harley Quinn and Associates, should we rename them or leave it?
I'd have to rewatch the movie to confirm, but it'd depend on whether "Badass Motherfuckers" is intended to be part of the name, or just a title of the aforementioned Harley Quinn & Associate - I'd imagine the latter was the initial assumption.
This edit was blatant disruption with his desire to get rid of the page. Previous edits by him on the page also have been disruption, with the most recent edit was super misguided and imho borderline vandalism.
Thanks Mech, I wasn't sure what the best way to handle that was. Surely if a page has been around for so long at the very least it warrants a conversation before sudden deletion, so that edit definitely looks malicious.
Saunt3D wrote: Thanks Mech, I wasn't sure what the best way to handle that was. Surely if a page has been around for so long at the very least it warrants a conversation before sudden deletion, so that edit definitely looks malicious.
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I agree, the content is pretty solid as it slowly came out over the years, with various people confirming stuff. As such, it definitely warrants a conversation between a bunch of p oeple before it gets chucked out.
If Black Mask and Zsaz are friends, why would he show little regard for Zsaz's welfare? The whole plot was centered around the diamond. After Zsaz died, he didn't care and his only goal was securing the diamond. He always sent Zsaz on risky missions, and I think that if they were "friends", he wouldn't do that because he wouldn't want to jeopardize his welfare. Also, Black Mask's article doesn't list "friend" for Zsaz either.
It's a one-sided friendship. Call them "friends". They treated each other like such, on top of the fact that Roman was nasty and self-serving - the two aren't mutually exclusive. Sure, perhaps they weren't the healthiest of friends, but it doesn't make it incorrect. As for Black Mask's article, given the context, it should. Shockingly, each article has to be edited separately.
Christhewalrus continues to edit the Zsasz Birds of Prey entry by removing a factual statement of two characters and their relationship. It has turned into an all out annoying war of who's more spiteful. The information in questions is Zsasz being Roman's "friend" (which is stated in the movie at least 3 times).
No, I'm not, but this action says a lot more about you considering your past behavior has been nothing but edit wars with other users on the wiki. I am of the opinion that user:ewiloveit was correct with their first addition. The continual refusal to acquiesce and accept the edit, which is factual to the movie's lore, is childish. Whether or not ewiloveit should use such language is up to the mods of the wiki. It's your past behavior and continual ignorance of the wiki's guidelines that should be brought up to the mod. It's beyond irritating at this point.
This is not harrassment, your entire wall is full of past discussions of this behavior. I'm surprised you haven't learned, even after being called out numerous times. Or at least had a discussion with the users that keep changing it, but you revert to name calling and threats of reporting. So I decided to stoop to your level. The mods can decide what to do.
What I can't make an account to point out your behavior when I see it on a character wiki I like? You already took care of reporting ewiloveit for bad language. I don't see why I can't do the same to the other party. If you think one person has this much time and stupidity to create numerous accounts just because they want to make life hard for you over a wiki, you are beyond narcissistic.
Just going to point out, for MakeShift, that this bizarre aggression over a wiki entry, which has been noted and called out before, hopefully does not extend to the rest of the community. Wiki's are an extremely amazing and wonderful collection of lore for us fans, I've never contributed before, until it came to this situation, but I do appreciate the hard work everyone else puts in.
I'm seconding this. I basically rewrote the entire entry for Zsasz because it was a mess of inaccuracies and lacked about 50% of his actual film presence and content. Ewiloveit posted it for me because I didn't have an account at the time. I put "+ close companions" next to employer because those are the facts. Christhewalrus took that to be untrue. we changed it to best friend, he deemed that to be untrue as well. Interesting, seeing as Harley literally calls Zsasz Roman's BFF in the film. We then called him on his behavior on his wall and he deleted the thread.
This isn't an issue of are they/aren't they gay. I have my opinions but it's all speculation at the end of the day. What this IS is a homophobic microagression that refuses to accept a (at the VERY least) male friendship. It's important enough of an aspect to their relationship to make it worth putting in. Zsasz's entire plotline in the film is based on this.
Firstly, wasn't me, not a sockpuppet. Totally different person. Second, no one's acting innocent. We stooped to a petty level trying to get you to stop. But the facts are the facts, you keep trying to remove something that should be there.
A character in a movie referring to someones relationship as "BFF's" doesn't mean you need to literally put "BFF's" in the article, and it also doesn't prove that they can be considered friends since we don't see any sort of friendship, and Harley is also not a very reliable source considering that in universe, she talks to the fourth wall, which can be seen as a sign of Truman syndrome/schizophrenia.
It's funny that you think the movie doesn't show us any signs of friendship. Would you like an itemized list of points that support the evidence that they are, in fact, canonically friends? I can do that for you but that would take me a few hours to fully compile. With time stamps of course.
Harley is shown to be a trained psychiatrist with a "PHD, motherfucker" who knows what she's talking about on more than one occasion, and a stylistic choice for the storytelling method =/= real-life mental illness
also I think we're forgetting we initially just had it as "close companion"??? I only put BFFs and FWBs and all that crap because you were so weirdly fixated on denying any sort of friendly relationship between the two of them, lmfao
I would actually like to see that list, Zsaszybeats. How about just the best 1-3? I don't care about a time-consuming list, I just never got the impression they had anything more than a healthy work relationship. Harley gets a number of things wrong in her narration, so I'm not really interested in that.
Firstly, unless the purported singular user is great at hiding their tracks, all three users are completely separate people - they're not even in the remotely same location.
As for Zsasz's relation to Sionis, it's very explicitly clear that they're at least friends, so I'm a bit unsure why you chose to remove that - did we see different films? That being said, I think Ewiloveit went extremely overboard with the descriptors; "Apple of his eye"? What? And their comment was extremely unnecessary and attacking, so I've removed that. However, enough can be inferred from the movie to justify putting "friend" at least, I'd say, and I'm not even referring to Harley's claims, so why this was such a confusing ordeal I fathom to understand. One might argue a "healthy work relationship" but it becomes a bit murky territory when you consider that none of the situation is really classed as "healthy". That being said, at the end of the day, an edit war is still unjustified for any reason whatsoever.
Christhewalrus, you've already had three warnings about needless edit warring, so I've issued a small block, which feels lenient given how you continually insist on having your way instead of having some semblance of a discussion - in fact it seems like you even shut down an attempt at one just a couple of hours ago. Perhaps you'll claim this is some abuse of power, but if you were to actually act in the interests of the wiki, this wouldn't be necessary.
Sure the comment is bad, plus he also put under the relationships close companion, BFF, FWB, best buddy, closeted friend, and the apple of his eye which seems somewhat odd. Plus, Ewiloveit is also spamming us and is using sockpuppets.
Not a sockpuppet. Actually in a completely different part of the world, check my IP if you want. Yes we stooped to a petty level but a point was being made. I also repeatedly said change it back to friend, because that's where we all want to be in the end of this, somewhere rational and reasonable.