Birds of Prey isn't "that" bad. It's not a "feminist" film like, say, Captain Marvel.
The Batman itself suggests it's separate. For example, it's in the second year of Batman's career. This means that it is in October 1996, yet they have Mobile Phones and Gordon is a completely different race.
That being said, Jim Lee included The Batman as apart of the DC Extended Universe in a list of them when talking about the Snyder Cut, so hopefully it will be folded into the universe. This is the first time it's been mentioned in ages, so I don't know why you're talking about WB saying it's in the DC Extended Universe.
They're different franchises in the same multiverse, you can cry all you want but that's the official word, sorry.
I didn't mean that Man of Steel was a failure, obviously I was talking about Green Lantern.
The Green Lantern movie is Earth-12 because Footage of it was shown in Crisis on Infinite Earths and Sinestro in the comic tie-in had his Green Lantern uniform from the film on, which is odd because he became a Yellow Lantern in the after credits scene. Possible that that scene happens after Crisis in the Post-Crisis reality.
The DC Extended Universe is an undesignated universe, but for the sake of simplicity let's say Earth-DCEU.
They can't be the same because Amanda Waller is played by a different actress and they share an actor, which isn't necessarily confirmation but implies they didn't take the film into account.
Theres also the fact that Man of Steel was meant to be the start and because of the failure of the film, any hope of that it will be apart of this continuity is ridiculous.
It's not about what they want, and he hasn't said anything, it's about what we know. I want this film to be in the DC Extended Universe too.
Here's the facts:
Warner Bros is focusing on standalone films, even allowing a film to be in a completely separate universe.
Joker was a successful film set outside of the main continuity
Gordon was a white man in Justice League. In The Batman, he's black.
This film has reportedly nothing to do with Ben Affleck's Batman.
This film has no shared cast members.
It has been claimed this is completely separate from the "Extended Universe", though later clarified that it is still in the "DC Universe" and "Batman is Batman", but they're not going to do any cameos or references. Sounds like a big mess.
I wouldn't be so confident. In the chance that Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman or Jason Mamoa's Aquaman meet Batman again at some point, he'll look like Robert Pattinson, though have a vague history of Ben Affleck's iteration combined with his own Batman.
I mean that, if they intent to crossover Batman with other things, this reboot is retroactively about the same Batman, Alfred and Gordon, but until then, this isn't in the DC Extended Universe.
If they ever go back to crossovers, they WILL use this Batman, retroactively making this the same as Ben Affleck's Batman, until then, it's not really DC Extended Universe.
Uh, what? There was no reason for him to run. That's a strawman argument.
Pretty sure he worked out for himself that that was an alternate universe version of himself. He went to another location in the speedforce after.
I'm sure that they'd react by either believing he's lying to get one up on Cyborg or just believe him and not do much since they can't.
Sure, I agree, as long as they support good films and aren't blind fans. I'd argue they're this generation of DC films.
Why would they?
He was in the speedforce after every universe was destroyed, not a particular universe.
Oh, I agree he can look better, of cause.
Could you clarify?
They are separate franchises, but Warner Brothers wanted this to happen and it's clearly intended to be a crossover.
Arrowverse is only Earth-Prime to the Arrowverse. That term is relative. The DC Extended Universe could be the new Earth-1.
No ones saying that the Arrowverse is better than the DC Extended Universe or anything.
On the Paragons, there are multiple of each, considering Earth-167 and Earth-97's Supermen both being considered a Paragon of Truth. This means that Earth-DCEU Batman could have been the Paragon of Courage, who would have made Batwoman look like chewed chewingum in a fight, Wonder Woman could have been the Paragon of Love, which fits her progression more than Barry Allen, Superman for hope, which fits the original plan for his character, Aquaman for honor, Shazam for destiny, Cyborg for humanity and the Flash for... truth?
Warner Bros, the film guys no less, asked for this scene. It's officially the Ezra Miller Flash, and this is part of his history. Grant Gustin is a Flash from an alternate universe within the same multiverse as the DC Extended Universe.
He doesn't have to look the same to be the same person.
Why? It's canon, Warner Bros asked for it.
It's an easy stomp.
Darkseid can look different in different universes, he's still the same person.